Wit and Wisdom From a Old Fart

Lrus007

was not sure where to post this. was either burn fyah cafe or the cutting
edge. i chose the cutting edge. reason is i want discussion on a few
topics. like from cannabis discussion and also my own questions.
please feel free to prove me wrong or right. if i am wrong, i like to learn
what is right. i was planting a tree in the rain today when i thought of
what to use as title for thread. so here we go. while planting a tree
today i thought about superthrive. i do think it has a use in pot farming.
is good at transplant time, we know this. but i have used in a grow many
times. so my thoughts are. it is good at transplant and in 4th to 5th week
of bud. 1 good dose in mid bud will really perk plants up. can also add
a week to budding. but do not add the drop to a gal every watering or
you will taste it in the finished buds. just my opinion of course.
then i wanted to ask about something. c-ray said in show. that for
BHO some use propane. is this normal propane or has it got the smell
removed ? well that is a good start i do not want to make 1st post
to long.
thanks Lrus007

Lrus007

forgot the wisdom part.
*the best time to plant a tree is 10 years ago.
the 2nd best time is today.*

GoKart Motzart

Glad to see you carve out a corner for yourself...I must plant some trees this summer!

I believe Most Butane canisters actually also contain a small amount of propane. Good question about the source for pure propane with out the chemical smell additive...I imagine if a person is using regular smelly propane then the first purge in a closed loop system would remove the chemically added smell along with any other contaminants that might be in there...Just guessing..

spaceman

you could distill the propane to a clean quality.....same as butane....I see it makes a lighter extraction so some guys working with outdoor have been using it...

plantbuilder

http://chemeng-processing.blogspot.ca/2010/04/gasoline-and-lp-gas-treating.html

Lrus007

thank you pb i have read and will ponder on it a while.
when i planted tree i put some mycorrhizal onto roots.
i have noticed when ever i have used it on indoor plants
fungas nat's show up. i do not know if they are in it or something
in it attracts them. but every time and diff brands. just something
i thought i would pass on. outdoor plants it works well.

then i wonder about this DEXO for making oil. over the pond
they seem to love it. not seen any for sale in the USA.
i would think since it has a alcohol in it you would get some
chlorophyll in the oil. so a green not a gold/amber oil.
has anyone tried it ?
guess that is about it for today.
*anger and hate can last forever, so learn to say fuck it and mean it*
Lrus007

Lrus007

i was thinking about rosin last night and today.
i do think this old tech in a way. what set me to thinking
was long ago i made rosin and did not know it. i have a metal
hash press i had made. well one day i load it with finger hash.
as i was pressing in my vice i was heating the press with a torch.
it took me two days to get my damn press open. but the puck
was like solid glassy piece of plastic. incased in rosin i know now.
i should go dig it out i still have it. i freeze my hash press now
much better to use. anyway made me think that before i got
my press made. i would roll hash into balls until smooth and shiny.
incased in rosin from hand heat. so this in a way is very old.
man has rolled hash balls a long time. one reason is to seal hash so
it does not go bad. but also the outer rind of the balls was better
hash then the center of the ball. so this is very old. pressed hash
back in the 1970's the outer rind was better hash than center.
guess that's about it.
*lock your dog and girlfriend into trunk of car. in 1/2 hour
open it and see who is happy to see you*
Lrus007

Lrus007

i dug into the drawer of wonders today. to grab a puck
take a photo of. a photo is 1000 words they say.
anyway i noticed i had made 3 of them. must have been
the last one that glued my press. so there are leaf bits
on /in them because was finger scissor hash. makes them
look a little odd in photo's. they are hard as a rock and shiny.
just thought i would add this to my last post. for the photo's.
Lrus007

Lrus007

funny no edit button.
i also remembered that those pucks were
pressed with a 20 ton jack in a steel frame i have.
Lrus007

Lrus007

i figured i would get some replies. i have thick skin so feel free.
i have not posted been sick with a flu. very tired of it.

let's talk a little about trace elements. i like to give a dose
in middle of blooming. in 2 weeks fan leafs yellow and can be
plucked off from then on. another thing that they do is.
say you have a leaf die in a bud. with the trace elements the
leaf dry's and does not rot. helpful if you have a wet room or
mold problems. guess that's about it for today.
i might move my comments on cann diss to here from pm. <- lol
just the topics part comments. so we can discuss them.

*smile more, you might find some people smile back.
if so and cute give a wink*
Lrus007

Springs

What kind or brand of micro nutes do you use? Key for mold prevention sounds good to me.

I can dig it, the shine layer of pressed hash is similar to rosin i bet, cool stuff and under our nose the whole time! 20 tons is a lot of pressure!

Hope you're feeling better :)

Lrus007

guess i forgot part of it. fritted trace elements. mine is a powder
most come as pellets. so might have to powder the pellets if
that is all you can find. takes very little 1/4 tsp to 4 gallons of water.
about 10 days later you will notice fan leafs yellowing.
Lrus007

c-ray

is that a plantprod brand product?

http://www.plantprod.com/product/plant-prod-chelated-micronutrient-mix/

Lrus007

seems close but here is some on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-KILO-pkg-TRACE-ELEMENT-FRIT-for-BONSAI-/200730352702
would be a lifetimes worth 1 kilo bag.
Lrus007

Lrus007

here we go comments on this weeks cann diss.

first lol at pb for foot on cheater pipe on vice.

mixing pot.. when i was young if 2-4 people went
to get high. each would pull out about same size buds.
then each person would load bong till bud was almost gone.
then after each was done the scraps were mixed and loaded till
gone. we would also sometimes mix them right off the bat and
pass bong around. my fav was thai and skunk mixed...

listen and learn.. even from fool's because what they know
they learned the hard way.

sonic water is in motion so things would move thru it better
then just pressured water. would also cause a scrubbing action
from the motion of water.

i liked the vertical sifter will read up a little on them. i had thought
of one before.

yes pb is OCD he keeps needing stronger pot products over time.
lol

ok pot products i feel that i can put them in order somewhat.
from strongest on down. just my opinion

finger/ scissor hash from fresh plants. *smoked the same day
finger/ scissor hash from dry plants. *smoked the same day
first run dry sift
lightly stirred bubble hash
BHO
rosin
alcohol made oils
2nd run hashes
then buds
then leaf

wait till all that legal hemp there going to grow fills
miles around with pollen. many indoor and outdoor growers
are going to wonder. why are all my damn plants covered
with seeds...

altitude has less oxygen and more carbon dioxide than sea level.

that about it for cann diss comments. feel free to discuss..
*cann diss* cracks me up sorry pb lol
i have thick skin so no need to be shy.
Lrus007

Trichome Pharm

listen and learn.. even from fool's because what they know
they learned the hard way.

Great quote! lol!

http://www.cscscientific.com/csc-cientific-blog/what-so-special-about-picking-a-sieve-shaker ???
peace
jf
#-o

Lrus007

thank you for link . more food for thought.
i need to figure out metal mesh size closest
to 100 -110 lines per inch. any one happen to
know that off top of head > thanks if you do..
i have a new idea for a flat screen of sorts.
Lrus007

c-ray

lines per inch, don't forget to factor in the thickness of the lines, brand to brand can have different opening size right?

Springs

Been eyeing up mesh's at http://www.mcmaster.com/#stainless-steel-mesh/

Lrus007

well i asked uncle google.

Which Mesh Screen is Best for You

There are a couple of different grades of screens you can use in your weed grinder, with 40, 60, 80 and 100 mesh screens. Grinder screen replacements may be needed or desired for any number of reasons, including those discussed above, but most times it is simply to change the mesh count of your screen to achieve a finer sift and more potent pollen. Grinders have screens to filter out highly potent crystals called kief. These are saved and either turned into hash or sprinkled into joints or in a bowl, the choice is yours. A fine wire mesh screen will prevent larger plant material from passing through, resulting in a more concentrated collection of Keif.

The 40 wire mesh screen allows particles of 420 microns and smaller to pass through easier, while the 60 mesh screen allows less particulate to pass through as it has smaller spaces between the mesh and so on. A 40 mesh screen will have approximately 40 wire threads per inch and a 60 mesh screen has 60 threads per inch. The higher the number, the smaller the spaces between the mesh strands, and the finer the particulate captured. Depending on how you are going to use your kief, select a mesh screen size compatible with your desired result. If you are wanting to make oil or resin, you may want to go as high as a 100 fine mesh screen, otherwise, using a 40 mesh screen or a 60 mesh screen should do the trick.

i am still not sure yet but thinking 60 and 80 mesh would work.
i think it is 100 mesh in my grinder and is much to fine for what
i want to do. still open to opinions thanks guys.
Lrus007

Lrus007

comments on cann diss
the rubber press is much like a apple press.
uses a acme screw. the green is called army green
is a powder mixed with about any solvent. most used
to be a lead paint. is a tuff paint prob still lead in it from china...
the rosin becomes a oil and is trying to escape the heat so flows
away from the heat. quicker cooling might be more terps in it.
a thought on your light terps. is a oil so goes from thick to thin
so you might be able to take light off first. a either vapor from
bottom and collected from top just might collect the terps from
the evaped either. just a thought. comments are welcome.
Lrus007

Lrus007

well is b day today getting old.
so every year i pull out a puck of flavored hash.
is always nice smoke. flavored you ask. well drew estates
acid brand cigars come with packing tobacco. it's infused with
some secret blend of ess oil's. i put 7 gram pucks of hash into
a airtight box with it for a year. it picks up the cool flavor. 3-4 hit's off
of the steamroller and your good to go.
Lrus007

plantbuilder

happy birthday you old fart <:-P

Monseigneur Stroganoff

happy b-day!!

Lrus007

thanks all, i only mentioned that because i wanted to
mention flavored hash. and this is the day i bring some out.
Lrus007

GoKart Motzart

Well then, happy flavored hash day! Have a good one!

c-ray

roll out the barrel

Lrus007

cann diss comments..
is humid by the sea. in morning is out shore flow humidity
and at night in shore flow humidity. mostly called on or off
shore flow.

2 to 3 week window for pot.. i disagree some pot is better after
a long cure. maybe not for your terps. but the bud goes thru other
changes. so does hash and oil's.

seed vs clone outdoor. a seed plant is much stronger then a clone.
i agree that a seed planted in the ground will have a longer and
deeper tap root and root system then a clone. *also plants grow
better if spaced apart more they need less water than close plants.

planting time outdoors. late is better i think. my reasons are from
say green beans if you wait till june to plant the soil is warm and
so are outside temps at night. pot does not like to go under 50º F
when it get's those temps it will stop growing and go into shock.
then takes time to recover and start growing again. then if you do
start early it takes time to harden off plants. if late is warm enough
to plant a plant on a cloudy day with no real shock. i will also throw
this in. if you dig out a spot for a plant it's root's will only grow to
the size of the hole. but a small hole the plant will grow out into
the normal soil. see a big hole with soft soil the plant won't send
roots out into hard soil. but a small hole the root's right away have
to grow out into hard soil. hope that made sense..
if i put a plant out i really wait. a 1' clone and plant on aug 1st.
if a good year get a 3-4' plant that is almost all bud's vs a 12'
monster that only top's are good. but that is me... a 12' plant
will make more buds so don't get me wrong.

guess thats about it. comments welcome lol
Lrus007

c-ray

whenever the volunteer sprouts come up is probably a good time to plant

plantbuilder

going to stick to my guns on 2 weeks from packaging date, techniques and opinions will vary (this would on average be one month from harvest date)

Lrus007

c-ray yes volunteers would be a good sign when to plant.
but if sprout's are from compost pile. they will be early
because of the heat from the pile. like this year i noticed
chives were sprouting in jan. so i seeded the thin spots then.
also when you see volunteer potato's in garden it lets you
know when to plant potato's. a older compost pile would be
a good place for a plant.

pb i disagree on the 2 week window, but that is my opinion.

then just so you all know i don't watch hash church.
also not up to date on a lot of video's posted here.
so i am a little behind on some topic's. i don't watch much video's.
thanks for replies guys.
Lrus007